"I JUST AM RELENTLESS IN MY AMBITION. I WANT TO RULE THE WORLD."
-ROXANE GAY

Hear author Roxane Gay interviewed by one of our all time heroes, Debbie Millman, host of the podcast Design Matters. Through her deeply personal writing, and prolific tweeting, Roxane Gay has reshaped how our culture talks about race, sexuality and the body. In this interview, the two talk about the difference between bravery and strength, clap backs, and Gay's ambition to rule the world.

Mentioned in this conversation:

Subscribe to the Design Matters Podcast
Roxane Gay's essay on the importance of unlikable female protagonists
The New York Times review of 'Difficult Women'
Roxane Gay's current favorite show is 'Forged in Fire' about master sword makers
Where to get your copy of Hunger
Roxane Gay on Twitter

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